Times are Hard for Dreamers: Boys Keep Singing
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Big East Football rules the world and they always have. (And by “always” I mean “since Louisville beat West Virginia.”) You wouldn’t think pubescent girls had that much power, but you underestimate Big East hysteria at your own peril.
Are Big East Teams even bubblegum football to start with? It’s tough to draw a clean line between bubblegum football and Big Boy Football. Some college football fans take a hard stance here insisting that true bubblegum football teams don’t play “big boy football”—that they are only toothless defensive squads or cartoon creations. Sifting through the football dig of recent BCS history, however, it becomes clear that this facile bit of taxonomy can’t hold. Remember the BCS idols of a couple of years ago? Northern Illinois played like a bubblegum Partridge Family. Utah, Fresno State, TCU, and Boise State all played soft schedules, producing prolific offensive statistics but all they really received was a Liberty Bowl-esqe Bowl that was the equivalent of hard time on the Planet Tiger Beat Magazine. When the quintessential bubblegum croon-master, Urban Meyer, put out his Utah Team up against Pitt (essentially an the Big East’s version of the Archies) in the Fiesta Bowl, he angled for a Big Boy SEC head coaching position destroying the Panthers with offense. Here is the newest version of College Football’s Boy Band (N’Synch?)
Louisville
Just like the Boy Bands of the 90’s, the Cardinals are out there. Think of them as taking dance classes in stripmalls in Louisiana, singing Boys II Men songs in the school hallways in Kentucky, appearing at county fair talent shows and roller rinks. These are ESPN’s kids and they’ve converged on Bristol Connecticut.
ESPN gave us Thursday Day Night Football and with that day, they gave us the “New” Big East. Thursday Night Football gave us West Virginia, Rutgers and of course The Ville. The Big East and ESPN have contracted to showcase Big East Athletics. It is certain that this plays some role in ESPN’s shameless promotion of the Cardinals and the Big East.
(Anyone know what schools are in this Conference?)
Kirk Herbstriet, a man that most college football fans respect, stated that the “Big East is better than most people believe” (that’s code, get it?) Kirk makes his money in reciting what ESPN tells him to say.
ESPN took the Ville to Thursday night TV where the market was much more hospitable to Bubblegum Football teams. After Utah and TCU softened pollsters resistance to bubblegum football, Louisville has popped and locked their way back home to unprecedented BCS dominance. Both Utah and TCU sadly flopped in their follow-ups while in contrast the Ville has closed in on a possible visit to the National Championship Game. Louisville in the National Championship? The brain boggles. The football? Much like their predecessors, a combination of smoke and mirrors with a soft schedule. When they settle into a defensive groove they rely heavily on a mid-‘80s Gap Band vibe that is a bend but don’t break style, and if they break (which they often do) they just score more points. But they make their money with a gooey offense. I say unequivocally… Really, it’s absurd to insist on an either/or definition. Are the Louisville Cardinals a bubblegum football team? Every time Brian Brohm throws a pass, the Louisville Cardinals are undeniably pink and chewy and popping.
Laugh it up. Petrino will replace Shula and Louisville will go right back to where it belongs. With the rest of the bottom feeders
I love Boy Bands
I like N’Synch the best. I will also say that Justin Timberlake is really hot.
As far as hating on Louisville, look in the mirror. It was the Vol fans who got their little panties in a bunch and for some silly reason invaded their board last week. It sucks looking up at us in the standings, doesn’t it?
Patrick you are correct. How can any SEC fan possibly argue with you. Howard, Illinois, North Carolina, Ohio, UConn Pitt and so on are tough foes. Thanks for setting this smart asses straight
We might look soft, but we are hard as nails. Thanks for the publicity
I am in the interview process with Alabama. It is between me and the fat ass that coaches on that MTV Football show, Rush Probst or whatever. They (Alabama) told me that coaching at Louisville was the same level as Hooover High School, so I got a real shot of going big time!
Bazooka Gum – Vany, Ole Miss, Miss St (who beat Bama), Kentucky
Wrigley’s Gum – Georgia, Bama
Other notable Bubblegum football – UT’s 1 point win over the Air Force academy (style points anyone?), Auburns close call with Miss St. and the dominating performance over Arksansas St. County College, Florida’s 6 pt. win over Vandy, do I need to go on?
I can appreciate the boy bands because at least their is no quackery only hard work unlike the SEC. Oh I’m sorry there are SEC fans on this board, you probably never heard of the word quackery. After you graduate your SEC school, you should apply to college (vandy excluded)
don’t listen to them, big east fans it’s all about the kids and the integrity of the program. you keep up the good work and continue to graduate your 27%.
in the end people will respect that.
Tenn is a shadow of their former selves. LSU had what? 26 turnovers and you still couldn’t win in Obknoxiousville? Sad.
Someone remind me how the SEC champs did against a lil ol’ Big East bubble gum school again back in January. I just can’t remember the score.
Oh wait, I found it. WVU scored 38 points on the N-sync SEC boyz from Georgia. I guess y’all best be finding some faster players down thar in SEC country so you can keep up with the bubble gum schools. lol
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We don’t give 2 shits about waht some national media guy thinks about our conference. So what if we don’t play tough games? So what if we load for that one game a year, like WVU did last year against UGA? To hell with you SEC folks
we big east fans should know the truth about the media. we all know that louisville has dominated college football for so long that jouranlist are now biased. what else does the ville have to do to prove that we are bcs material? its obvious that Petirno could have beaten temple, UK , MTSU and others by large margins but instead chose the classier route. and anyone who can’t see that Louisville has been holding it’s offensive schemes back for Rutgers and south floridaare just plain retarded. we all know that Bobby P has a playbook full of urban meyer-like plays. he’s just waiting for the right time to use them. as long as we Cards fans remember that we are the best program to ever take the field in college football, Coach Petrino will lead us home to the promise land.
i bet the pollsters are leaving us out because we have been pounding teams so bad. they is punishing us becuse we show no mercy and they are all trying to say style points dont matter so stop running up the score on lesser opponents. the problem is that our offense is so great we can’t help but to run it up against teams like cincy.
Boy the big bad SEC looked really tough last year when WVU whipped Georgia in their own backyard.
Guess you’re another one of those football bashers for whom facts simply don’t matter. Have fun in your old-time college football fantasy world while the Big East becomes a force again.
the Big East is a force “again”
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The Big East is terrible. It’s a three team race and none of those teams could cut it in a major conference.
Rutgers fans talking smack? I would smack back if it wasn’t so utterly ridiculous.
i actually consider myself married to Rutgers.
’til death do us part’.
What is a Rutger anyway?
Do any of you numbskulls actually think that Rutgers would be undefeated if they were playing in the SEC? Louisville is a very good football team, but that is all the Big East has. Georgia should have never gone to the Sugar Bowl last year. LSU choked. They were a much better football team
Bobby, Please don’t go to Bama Please!!!
you are the man to lead us back to the promised land! i hadn’t even realized your plan to keep games close so we can finish strong. i have never been more proud to be from Kentucky,well Louisville! we will be ready for many Liberty Bowls and Big East championships in the future
Coach Petrino,
We need you here in T-Town. Call me
You boys from the Big East, Restore Natural Order!! Don’t take anycrap from these SEC people!!!I know that the Big East is better than peolpe believe. So what if you play on Thursdays?
What the media says: Louisville doesnt deserve it…SOS, can’t play with the big boys, soft, bubble gum etc.
What they want to say: Louisville doesnt deserve it because….well…they’re Louisville.
And thats what it boils down to folks. The name on the jersey. If all you can come up with is an argument full of hypothetical results to hypothetical games then it is obvious people dont want UL to succeed because they dont have the pedigree.
Stephie, why not invite Furman and Georgia Southern to the BCS too? Using your logic, winning all of the games on the schedule is all that matters and the quality of the wins is not important.
puro pinche boise state de la WAC, ese
Just to let you know, West Virginia is 3-0 vs. the SEC in the current decade. A team we beat, at their place, just walked into Alabama and beat them. I think the SEC is vastly overated and the Big East is just coming into its own. With an out-of-conference record of 32-8 this year, the best in the country, the message is finally getting out there.
Last week’s West Virginia – Louisville game was watched by almost 5 million households, the second largest audience for a college football game ever televised by ESPN . You guys know a lot more about bubble gum than you do about football.
Did you not listen to Cowherd Paul? The OOC record is why people think you are pussies Paul. Play pussies, and save it up for one big game like WVU did against UGA. UGA played 9 or 10 big games that yeat, WVU was another game
Hey Paul, Is ER a rerun tonight again like last week.
I love Thursday Night football
#26 comment, this Dick was tossing out some misleading information. I thought that the number 5 million seemed a bit low “for a college football game ever televised by ESPN”
The Louisville-West Virginia game drew ESPN’s biggest audience for a Thursday night game and the second-most ever for a college football broadcast on the …
proxy.espn.go.com/keyword/searchResults?search=College+Football&searchType=0 – 45k
Here is what I think, I think that my Cards will easily slay Ohio State, Michigan, and Texas.
I have seen them play, and my Cards are so much better
I agree, they all are weak this year. We are the team of Destiny
The Big East is the future power base of college football. ESPN and the rest of the media loves us and sees that we will crush any other team. Remember UGA last year?
Paul, the SEC’s OOC record is 35-7.
The Big East will piss on OSU UM TexASS or Florida. mark my words you internet hooligans, it is coming.
Petrino reminds me of a young and sober Bear Bryant. I hate him but I can’t argue with the way he is forcing you “Big Boys” to conform to US!!!
Georgia is the blame for the Big East Abortion
If they hadn’t completely sleep-walked through the first half of that bowl game, we wouldn’t have to be hearing about how really good the Big East is.
I hate you Georgia
Texas’ third string could whip the vIlle (as could OSu- Mich-USC)
We agree King Mark. Robert Tebow, the Big East is a abortion, at best a douche
Robert Tebow: every man has his price. even you can be bought. i believe you will see the Big East light one day and become genuinely converted to the our conference. Tebow, i will not give up on you. i can already see you in Papa John Stadium pulling for The Ville!
it’s good to see we still have some right thinking Big East folks on this page. after significant reflection, i’ve begun to suspect some posters maybe Big East wannabes and others are in fact faking their allegiance (scarlet Knights in Cardinal clothing if you will).
enough of this chicanery, let’s hold the rope, share the joy of our birthright and let our worthy coach know we’ll stand by our man.
i like your attitude and your enthusiasm but look, just become an Big East fan cause it will be easier for you in the long run!
Big East now, Big East forever! (thanks ESPN)
So as King Mark said “Texas, Ohio State, & USCs third string could whip the ville” Well then explain why SC couldn’t even beat, much less whip the “high-powered” Oregon State team? And Michigan’s FIRST string pulled it out against BALL STATE. Ohio State looked impressive in their one touchdown win over the Fighting Illini. Is Illinois a top-5 team? And all of these teams were playing their first string, not their third. No one has touched on this subject so I will. Michigan and Ohio State dominate because the Big Ten is pretty weak this year, no offense. The SEC is overrated this year, yeah that one point win against Air Force? Tennessee is better than Louisville, you’re right (sarcasm). If you don’t like the Big East (especially U of L) then just find someone who can beat us. Until then, it’s fun looking down the BCS rankings at you!!!
PS-Everyone’s weak compared to the Big 12, go Sooners, Texas sucks!
It is funny to read these Ville fans puff their chest, enjoy it because it won’t last long. After watching your team a few times, it is quite evident that in practice they have trouble with the tackling dummy. Good God your team cannot tackle. I hope you go undefeated, make it to the BCS NCG, then you will be exposed, reality will set in, and you will be put back in your place.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Louisville is unbeatable
even that high school coach from arcuntsaw thinks teh big east is TEH SUCCC
Does Rutgers really have a chance? It’s good to see a local area college football team do well but Louisville is pretty tough. Braum is a first round NFL QB and that offense is stacked. Doesn’t matter who wins though cause the BCS will end up picking someone else for the championship game. i.e. Florida, Notre Dame, or anybody else from any other so-called “big time” conferences.
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Rutgers is a feel good story. They have no more business in the BCS than UL.
BTW, The Herd discussed this post on the air today
Why won’t Tennessee schedule Louisville if they’re so soft? Louisville’s been trying to get the SEC to man up and play them, but only Vandy and Kentucky will. You SEC elitists need to get acquainted with a little place I like to call Earth.
Why would the SEC play with poop?
I didn’t read the comments and with 50 of them I’m sure someone has already reminded you what West Virginia did to SEC champ Georgia last year. Anyway. Talk is cheap. I’d think a Vol fan, with all the history and heritage of that program, would appreciate that. Anyway, I guess when the Vols SEC championship totals begin to approach Bama’s national title numbers, the Vols will be one of the truly elite traditions in college football. Or at least the SEC. Cheers.
loserwithsocks – I thought the comment was in keeping with the spirit of the post. For what it’s worth, and I realize not much, when the Vols play outside the conference, I bleed orange. Plus Smokey’s awful cool. Peace.
The thing I don’t get is why people aren’t looking at the ACC and questioning their BCS bid. I mean, if we’re questioning Louisville’s bid for a BCS championship bid, shouldn’t we be asking whether or not Wake Forest, if they win the conference, is worthy? It’s as valid a question as the Louisville one.
An undefeated team is an undefeated team. But if you beat two undefeated teams this late into the season, and you are undefeated as well, isn’t it reasonable to say this team deserves a shot?
Good points. What about Boise State? The ACC really sucks almost as much as the Big East. Using the undefeated team theory, why not invite 1-AA trams too.
BTW, ESPN is a shameless whore for the Big East
Geez I am watching this game, if you can call it that. These teams are awful.
54 — Bitter much? I said an undefeated team beating two undefeated teams this late into the season, which I think that, perhaps, there’s a chance, maybe, Boise State hasn’t done, possibly.
A couple of analysts (the only ones I’ve counted so far are Mark May–really, who didn’t see that coming–and Pat Forde) say that Louisville is legit and for every one that I’ve heard say legit, another one has said illegit. Kirk says the conference is better than most people believe, which means they’re better than the comparisons they’ve gotten to the WAC.
And oh yeah, ESPN really loves the Big East, I’m sure they weren’t hoping for BC, Va Tech and Miami to leave for the ACC so they couldn’t broadcast the championship game from Orlando, Florida. I’m sure it’s also why they don’t let Gene Wojciechowski, their senior national columnist, say things identical to you and your brood, and why they’re not broadcasting Big East games on Thursday instead of Saturday, when they broadcast Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, and Pac-10 teams.
Count this: One Big East match up will be shown this weekend out of 14 match ups on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU, and it’s Cincinnati-West Virginia at Noon EST on ESPN2.
I’d say that’s more like realism than whoring.
Check this link, it is some satire but there is some real stuff buried in it. ESPN has to promote this conference
http://loserwithsocks.blogspot.com/2006/09/big-east-and-espn-join-together-to.html
Ah, this must be a different person writing.
Yeah, it was funny, but it explained nothing. You based an entire article about how the Big East signed a contract with ESPN and you didn’t even mention what it had to do with basketball, probably because it was contrary to the idea. They also signed a ginormous contract with the ACC shortly after they expanded, which would probably be a good story idea for a satirical piece today, with the same sort of regretful tone.
And since when are backhanded compliments and Thursday night games considered whoring?
Paul, Tennessee is 3-0 against current Big East teams in the last decade as well. So, take your selective stat and shove it up your ass. While you all are so hung up on them, Tennessee is also 5-0 all time versus Louisville.
Ohh, and Paul… the ratings for the game were so high because:
1. It was a Thursday night game… the only football on TV.
2. It also had ZERO competition. No more baseball.
More importantly… what the hell do TV ratings have to do with the quality of a team or a conference? Here’s a hint: Jack and shit. I think Jack left town, buddy.
dingers
You fucking Big East strokers just refuse to accept that it is jus “good mediocre football” at best. A 7 team conference that leaves it members to play 5 ooc weak opponents. Live this moment with the media, the day of reckoning is coming when the BE sends a team to play a real schools
Have I, at all, said how much I love Big East teams? Have I said how Louisville is going to pound whomever they would play if they made it to a National Championship game?
No.
In fact, had you read what I wrote, I was discounting ESPN’s coverage on the conference and calling it justified.
Either you’re illiterate or just plain stupid.
Rutgers wins, just as predicted. Now West Virginia takes out Rutgers next week.
dingers… ESPN’s coverage justified? It’s promotion based upon product. I think the recent ESPN-Big East contract is the driving force behind their hype. Bias? No… never ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2565092
Knute has commented many times on other Big East posts of ours. Be easy on him Dinger, he tries really really really hard. You can’t fix stupid
Once again: all Big East games are shown on Thursday nights, even if it features the #3 and #5 (undefeated) teams, as voted by the Associated Press. Hype would be showing it at 8 p.m. EST on Saturday night and calling it a national championship match up.
ESPN has contracts with almost every conference, it’s why they show so many football games. They publish the contract between ESPN and the Big East (which ESPN wanted solely for basketball but Tranghese wouldn’t sell without football included) and you guys are so belligerent about it, it’s amazing.
Sorry the SEC got screwed by CBS, but you guys really need to get over it.
The vast majority of our games are shown on national television. I have no complaints about exposure.
It is hype. It’s shameless promotion of their product. They talk up the Big East in all their programming to support their product to generate ratings to increase ad revenue. I take it that I don’t need to explain that concept further.
Personally, I’m glad we don’t play games on Thursdays. I’ve always thought that’s rather Busch League.
[...] All the members of the LWS Team send out our condolences to the Louisville Cardinals and their impressively raucous fan-base. Thanks for coming over to our blog and talking garbage on your obviously mediocre program from your obviously less than mediocre Conference. The comments posted were Pan-American Games Gold. I will miss you all. [...]
All the members of the LWS Team send out our condolences to the Louisville Cardinals and their impressively raucous fan-base. Thanks for coming over to our blog and talking garbage on your ..." permalink="http://loserswithsocks.com/2006/11/08/the-big-east-conference-plays-bubblegum-football/#comment-299"]The West Virginia Mountaineer’s run game will keep them in the game with any team in the nation. Add to it Pat White’s ability to pass the ball, and they are as good as anybody. Notre Dame, can you say OVERRATED? Take away “BIG” wins against the military academies and Michigan State and whaddya have? A bottom feeder in the Big East!
Jeff
Take away Slaton and White, WVU is nothing nada zero and absence of matter. I believe that the author of this post is referring to the entire Big East COnference as bottom feeders. The automatic BCS bid really needs to go to a more deserving school that has played a real schedule. Colin Cowherd, I love you
Put this in your post………….
How ya like the big east now?
casey,
Beating Wake Forest and Georgia Tech don’t mean poo
I would agree that beating Wake Forrest should not have been that big a deal. However, beating the bottom half of the SEC doesn’t mean what it may have meant in years past. The top of the SEC isn’t as good as Terry Bradshaw would like to believe, and the bottom half is dramatically worse.
What’s more interesting (at the risk of trying to introduce some kind of intelligent comment to this thread) is to consider how well Louisville played after losing a legitimate Heisman candidate. (And no, I’m not suggesting that Michael Bush would have beaten Troy Smith.) To lose a player of that caliber and still play as well as they did, says something about the coaching staff.
As for the SEC avoiding “lesser teams,” that’s clearly erroneous logic. Look at many of the SEC teams’ non-conference schedules. They’ve filled those with patsies. Why not add Louisville to the patsy portion of their schedules? – Tim
I agree, Louisville or any Big East Team for that matter would be an equal trade for Western Carolina or Wofford
It’s very clear to me that the Big East had a steller year and I could easy see a National Title coming out of that conference in the near future. The SEC simply plays a weak/non-existent OOC schedule. We’ll see how the 4th place USF team fares against the mighty Auburn next year. Perhaps that will be a measure.
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Where they can be got?
I love the idiot who started this webpage to rip the Big East disappearing like a loser.
“Take away Slaton and White, WVU is nothing nada zero and absence of matter. I believe that the author of this post is referring to the entire Big East COnference as bottom feeders. The automatic BCS bid really needs to go to a more deserving school that has played a real schedule.”
Hey idiot, you can say that about ANYBODY. You can’t possibly be that stupid. That’s like saying, “if you take about Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen the Bulls wouldn’t have won a championship, so strip them of their titles.” You’re pretty stupid, as evident.
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