Oh yes, the Big 10 sucks
The Big 10 is the 6th rated conference per the computers, and it is a distant sixth. Colin Cowherd sums up this suckass conference.[PodCast]
The Big 10’s BEST non-conference win is: a) Northwestern’s 5 point win over Nevada that turned on a questionable personal foul call or b) Michigan State’s 4 point win at home over Pitt. I couldn’t come up with a “c” to choose from.
An Iowa team that was good enough to go .500 in the Big 10 lost at home to a Western Michigan team that was not good enough to go .500 in the MAC.
Some other non conference gems: Northwestern (3-5 in B10 play) lost at home to Duke, Appalachian State over Michigan, Iowa State over Iowa (4-4 in B10 play).
The Big 10 is cat-shit awful. I can maybe, just maybe rationalize an 11-1 Ohio State being Top 10-15 (kind of like Hawaii is ranked around 15), but no other team in this conference deserves a Top 25 ranking.
ESPN PIMPS BIG 10 FOOTBALL, CRAMMING IT DOWN YOUR THROAT SATURDAY’S in the early AM. Truth is, it is often World War II bunker approach football with slow footed guys plodding along.
Seriously.
Let’s look at every team in that “league”:
INDIANA: Don’t care if they are going bowling this yea. That is a Basketball school pure & simple. When Lee Corso stays a decade there, you know that is not a serious program
PENN ST: Joe Pa joined that league 10 years too late. Their history is tied indelibly to his. He has won 2 BCS Bowl games since joining. Solid, but no longer elite program.
MICH ST: These guys are the annual underacheivers. How many years do they start out 4-0, only to implode. They might as well forfeit against Michigan. The Duffy Daugherty program, they aren’t.
MINN: They are the Ole Miss of the Big 10. Used to be a power, when JFK was President. Now they are an afterthought. Glen Mason stayed there forever, but respectable, and being a contender are two different things.
IOWA: Notice how Ferenz is now falling apart? Pink Lockerrooms. Their football history isn’t that hot when you consider they think Hayden Fry was great. Everytime you saw him in Pasadena…HE GOT LIT UP LIKE A XMAS TREE. Even against a mediocre UCLA team..
ILLINOIS: Zook, an SEC reject, is a strong recruiter, and is making them respectable because there is no depth in the league. The Illini’s last 2 major Bowl appearances were utter disasters. We will see if he can get them to another level. Southern Cal is going to hang 60 on the Zookers
NORTHWESTERN: They were a laughingstock for decades. Now at least they are competitive. Compare them though to the Pac 10’s old laughingstock of the 70’s 80’s, Oregon St. Who do you think has done better the last 10 years? Not even close.
MICH. Yep, they are perennially strong in the league. They also have a poor major bowl record, and are pushing out the only coach to win a National Title for them in 60 years. They are the kings of a 9-3/10-2 season, punctuated by a resounding New Years Day bowl loss. The Tom Kite of college teams. You know always up near the leaderboard in golf, hardly ever holding the Trophy.
Failboats: Yeah, they have been “strong” under Tressell. Give them props as a marquee program. Thing is, last years title game exposed the lack of speed that team had and still seems to lack. Anyone see the Michigan game? Jesus that was just bad football. You put them in against a fast team in a bowl game again this year, they will get beat…again.
WISCY: Wiscy was a nothing program until Alvarez arrived. Bielma is doing pretty well. We will see how long it lasts.
Sorry, just don’t see how they are supposedly any better than the PAC 10. It also shows in when the best of the Pac meets the best of the Big 10. The Pac takes them out more often than not. Yet the SEC types never look into that. Heck they play up Woody vs. Bo in the late 60’s & 70’s. They won’t tell you that Woody & Bo after 68, annually got beat by Stanford, USC & UCLA teams in the Grandaddy of them all.
Believe the ESPN former Big 10 honks on BoBo. Sorry, it is infernally inferior league.
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I do find it funny you guys think that ESPN is in love with the Big10. They have been generally bad mouthing the Big10 all year, if for no other reason than they want the Big10 Network to fail as competition to their own broadcasts. I have heard them say the SEC is the best conference and the Big10 down at the bottom with the ACC on numerous occasions.
But then maybe we get a different ESPN feed here in NYC than you guys do.
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
who can forget UT 20 Failboats 14? Since we are talking bowl records? UT 41 Michigan 17?
Failboats 0-8 in Bowls vs SEC? Come back when the Failboats actually win a game versus a real team….
Do you often post the same thing to different threads?
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
just responding in suit.
Bucks
I don’t think this is our year..,We have been blessed with a relatively favorable schedule with superior talent.
WE need to keep it close.
@5 it won’t be close.
good stuff, that chart is good stuff
The thing that aggravates me the most about the Big Ten is their lack of a conference championship game. Its fucking ridiculous the league gets so much respect because they were your father’s football conference. At least the Pac 10 and Big East play a round-robin conference schedule. Its horse-shit that they don’t play 10 conference and 2 out of conference games.
Honestly as much as people want to knock on the Big East at least they aren’t losing to 2 1aa schools and non-bcs schools with regularity.
Fuck the Big Ten.
And of course, the SEC is a bat-shit awful league itself. They feast on other mediocre SEC teams and call it parity. Hahahaha!
What a predicable load of cricket shit from the SEC homers.
Wonder what excuses they will have for a drubbing of powerhouse LSU (some squeaky wins there all year) by OSU? Oh, they’ll claim they didn’t utilize their superior speed well enough, or that OSU lulled them to sleep…whatever. Here’s to the big bag of buckeye nuts that’ll be shoved up the SEC posterior places come January!
Say what you want. The SEC just SUCKS air, is all.
Go Bucks! OSU 35; LSU 13
Oh, and yes. The SEC is just so out-of-conference tough?
Hahahahah…gimme a fried tomato to slap up side your face!
Face it…the SEC is OVER-RATED…and will demonstrate their crappiness in the bowl season. It will all come out in the wash…except for the fact that you don’t use soap in your wash. the SEC teams are dirty teams that have lots of trouble off the field…FOUR SEC players facing rape charges…FIVE players faces assault and other assorted charges…come on…the SEC SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS as clean programs go!
@THEOhioStateSuckeyesstopshere -At least the SEC wins their out of conference games against mediocre teams. Look at the games, one loss to a weak OOC team by Bama to UL Monroe. Many bad losses for Big Ten losers.
I’m not even a SEC fan I am just giving your homer ass some facts. Have fun getting buried in the MNC.
@Ohio State Suckeye – Isnt maurice clarett the mvp of your NC team in jail and Penn St’s Austin Scott charged with rape?
Quit being an unintelligent homer. Every conference has bad seeds, including yours ass-hat.
Don’t ever bury a Buckeye…it sprouts roots and grows into one of the strongest trees in the world…then it drops really hard nuts on your head…maybe that’ll match the really tiny ones between your legs.
OSU will eat LSU for lunch. OSU 35, LSU 13 You heard it here first, Bonzo.
So basically you can’t make any sensible form of argument except for explaining how trees grow? Just curious, what was prediction last year OSU 50 UF 13? You are a loser.
@12 I wouldn’t go throwing stones in this glass house. I’m an SEC fan, but everyone knows that the SEC is notorious for their share of troubles with the law. Heck, it wasn’t too long ago that Tennessee had a whole laundry list of off-the-field troubles (over a dozen in a ~13 month span). I’d say SEC problems >> Big Ten problems.
And that’s just one school out of 12.
Tom can you fucking read?
11 “I’m not even a SEC fan”
12 “very conference has bad seeds”
@13 OK, I’ll try not to bury Maurice Clarett because he may grow trees or whatever. He may become Cell Block D’s official arborist. That is a skill he can use when he gets out in 5 to 10…
In the last 10 years of BT-SEC head to head games? 13 – 13
In the last 5 years in head to head games? BT 8 – SEC
6
This despite the fact that all of these games are played under the preferred weather conditions of the SEC, and frequently (let’s look at this year’s title game as a start) as de facto home games for SEC teams. I wonder how y’alls pass-happy offenses might fare outdoors in Ann Arbor or Columbus in January, when, y’know, actual football is required.
Penn State 20, Tennessee 10. Just in case you’d forgotten.
Ever notice that the BCS title game is never played in such a despicable place?
Is that your idea of a comeback?
The man brought up weather and geography…just pointed it out. You want me to bring up heat and humidity in September? Or is “actual football” not necessary under those conditions?
And we haven’t exactly had a “pass-happy” offense this year, maybe somewhat in previous years.
The truth hurts Big 10 homers. Their “elite” program is 0-8 vs. the SEC.
Way to come strong with the facts Jai
How about this for a comeback???
Tennessee National Titles: 6 (1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998)
PSU National Titles: 2 (1982, 1986)
That poor dimwit predicting a 35-14 victory for the Tressel Vests has a severe case of terminal amnesia or more likely “cranial netheritas”. Wonder if Florida 41 Ohio State 14 might wake him up? Those plodders from Columbus will be making all the excuses again on January 8 after LSU kicks their speed challenged asses. By the way, was the Michigan-OSU game broadcast in slow motion?
Tenessee is a joke. When was their last national championship game? When was the last time they went to 3 national championship games in 5 years? When was the last time they won a national championship? When was the last time they won the f’n SUC? Oh and how bout that 2 game sweep by the bucks in basketball last year? How bout that tourney game? Can you say choke?
Oh…and…….Penn State 20, Tennessee 10
Oh, the Big 10, only 2 NCs in 38 years?
Ohio State NCs:8 (1933, 1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002). Because of the multiple voting bodies, the NCAA football national championship means comparatively less than that of any other sport, but hey, since you want to play numbers: OSU 8, UT 6.
And I see that no one wants to bite on the recent BT-SEC head-to-head. I wonder if that’s because it immediately renders your argument invalid?
One title game blowout with the other team’s best player on the sideline does not make for SEC godhood (let alone make much of a case for UT’s greatness). And this “we’re the best because we all play each other” nonsense is the definition of a circular argument. It’s sad that you SEC folks all actually buy it.
@29 Alabama NC’s: 12 (If you don’t believe that, ask them)
Speaking of the BT-SEC head to head, did you guys ever figure out how to stop real speed??? Or will Matt Flynn be this year’s Chris Leak, because you sure couldn’t stop him last year.
Oh, the best player thing for last year’s blowout, I don’t remember Ted Ginn winning the Heisman. If memory serves, Troy Smith choked under the pressure, so I don’t buy the whole “best player” on the sidelines thing. Gonzalez, Smith, Pittman, and Robiske were still on the field so that should have offset the loss of Ginn. Just make sure that your guys don’t try to celebrate a touchdown again and sprain an ankle.
Funny you talk about the “we’re the best because we all play each other” argument, because you guys all talk about the “Great Rivalry ” between OSU-Michigan and how the Big 10 is the best because you play for axes, wood buckets, and gold pigs. You guys make the same argument, just as the Pac 10 does too. Same ol turds, just different flies buzzing around…
Oh, how did Greg Oden and Mike Conley fare against Joakim Noah and Corey Brewer last year in hoops???
Also, from the fine folks at College Football Data Warehouse, the SEC is the #1 overall best conference. The rankings are based on all time wins, both regular and bowl wins:
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_conf_rankings.php
As far as all-time team rankings, the SEC has 3 of the top 10 teams listed. The Big 10, 2. Here’s the link:
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_team_rankings.php
Oh, speaking of the top all time teams, Michigan ranks ahead of Ohio State according to those rankings…
Two the last two guys: 1) I could care less about Big Ten hoops. Changing the topic when you can’t refute the facts presented is disingenuous; you sent your cheap shot to an uninterested party. 2) OSU versus Michigan is also not what we’re talking about, and one argument probably better kept between people who actually follow the Big Ten. However, for the record, Michigan being ranked higher makes sense given that they rose to national prominence much earlier and owned the early decades of the rivalry.
I still hear deafening crickets about the fact that recent head-to-head tells anything but the story of the SEC being a manifestly superior football conference.
My point, along with Jai’s, is that the Big 10 sucks. The point that you are making about the recent head to head: Yes UT lost to PSU in a somewhat close game. The Buckeyes got completely blown out by Florida last year in the title game, the same game that every team tries to get to. I think that Florida’s win vs. Ohio State proves that the SEC is superior.
I am still waiting on the fact that every major media outlet and/or data analysis site still ranks the Big 10 below the SEC when it comes to the best overall conference. What about College Football Data Warehouse ranking the SEC as the ALL-TIME BEST CONFERENCE???
Everyone will agree that the SEC, Pac 10, and Big 12 are the best conferences now. Historically, the SEC has been the better conference between the two. Yes, the Big 10 overall has more national titles in football by 3 (this counts PSU’s 2 titles even though they were won before they joined the Big 10, which I think was a mistake for them to do), but getting blown out in the Rose Bowl on an annual basis by a Pac 10 school, the *2002 National title for OSU, and last year’s blowout on the game’s biggest stage does not help your conference’s credibility…
Although it is hard to defend the SEC when you have out of control Alabama football players:
http://www.nbc13.com/gulfcoastwest/vtm/news.apx.-content-articles-VTM-2007-12-07-0014.html
and Gamecocks getting gutted in the neck like Joey Greco:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3147934
First of all…college football sucks. As long as this shit-tard bowl system is in place the whole thing is as illigitimate as brintanny spears bastard children.
I will say the Big 10 is awful. They get preference for being a good conferance historically. They suck today. OSU gets credit for loading up on crappy Big 10 schools all year. Who is OSUs bets win? Michigan that lost to a glorifed community college? or was it Winsconsin that has also beat no one this year?
After LSU drops 50 on OSU I want to hear some explaining from you cornfed white boys from the mid-west. And yes…if you are from the midwest I feel sorry for you. Your life must suck so much all you have to look forward to is Big 10 football and livestock auctons. Face it…you people cling to crap ass football because that is all you have. Call me when you abercrombie wearing bitches learn how to recruit speed and talent. Maybe a big east coach will come and show your monkey tits how to play football ie)WV to MICH.
PSU has had somethnig like 3 winning season the past 6 or 7 years so the trash talking needs to stop. That’s emmbarrassing enough in of itself. Tennessee has ONE loosing season the past 20. Fact is, more often than not, PSU would want nothing to do with Tennessee the past several years. Nice OOC schedule by the way. Way to pad the win column to avoid more loosing seasons. PSU is an afterthought. period.
OSU’s was just as bad and neither school would trade their schedule for Tennessee’s or Florida’s etc. I doubt very seriously that that joke of a QB coach at PSU would want to see LSU, FLORIDA, TENNESSEE, GEORGIA, CAL and ARkansas instead of the schedule they played/ To say otherwise is complete homerism.
OK. Here it is in single syllable words:
The AP and UPI polls are made up of journalists and broadcasters. These folks livelihood depends on selling advertising via print, radio and TV. Folks in the South have better things to do than sit around during fall watching TV (no marketing mass). Big Ten teams get jacked up in the polls so that folks in the Midwest will sit in front of the TV, drink beer and order pizza. Why do you think that almost every bowl game has a team from the Midwest? Because their teams are so good? NO. Because their alumni will fill your planes, hotel, and restaurants for a week while drinking your town DRY. It is all about marketing.
Sports are entertainment.
Takes revenue to build programs.
Takes advertising to generate revenue.
Takes media to deliver advertising.
The media is in control of the polls…..Get it?
Check the tude, Terry.
So….. Penn State is no longer an elite program? You exploited the Big 10 for loosing to mediocre teams, do I here a Wyoming? As you quoted “MICH. Yep, they are perennially strong in the league. They also have a poor major bowl record, …….. hardly ever holding the Trophy.” wasn’t that the year Michigan beat those great Gators? I love how SEC people talk about poor OOC games. Doesn’t that apply with the SEC too? Who has the SEC beaten OOC that is recognizable except in the post season? How did Auburn do? LSU? Arkansas? Vandy? Miss State? Georgia barely beat MSU, which you trashed on. Kentucky? The only two teams that deserved to be hyped in the SEC is UF and Bama. And Bama is even doubtful by how they played against Utah. My point is that as the Big 10 has been down for a couple years, SEC has down years, and there are obvioulsy individual teams who stand out. What I love is that the SEC fans make it sound like all the SEC schools won the NC. Florida won the NC not the other SEC schools. One school doesn’t define a superior conference. Is the Pac 10 a superior conference because USC is good? Obviously the SEC is one of the better conferences, but don’t talk trash cuz you guys aren’t that good. I love how people say ESPN loves the Big 10. Have you seen Mark Mays? and half the ESPN broadcasters? They suck USC, and the SECs balls so hard that there’ balls would get sore.